I was chatting with a gray haired middle-aged man who was to be interviewed by the same company that David E. was applying for. I wanted to hate him because he was competing for the same position as my best friend, but as I was chatting with him he was intensely asking me questions, being very present. I couldn’t help but like him. I made a mental note of telling David that he should ask many questions and allow his curiosity to drive the interview (which I did the next day).